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[Rachel]

esabataj, on 13 September 2010 - 02:22 PM, said:

Thank you, did you know his sire Norus had won everything there was to win, he was a remarkable performance horse!
Debra

yes and I was once told to look into getting a Norus decendant for Aries. Since then I have loved the look of him and his foals...I even had the chance to free breed lease a Norus daughter in Ontario but I did not have any breeding plans for that year

[VanAlma]

In light of the Egytian Alternative discussion about rare sire lines in the SE gene pool, and because the best Arabian I ever owned was a PB who had this blood as well, it sparked an interest in me to search out horses of the Julep sire line. I found this stallion who kind of wowed me, so figured I'd put him here in case someone is actually looking to get this sire line in their program. Apparently, he has a full brother, although the pic does not do him justice or he isn't as nice. I guess we don't know until we search these lines out...
HR Judaan

[ponygirl]

Ray, on 23 May 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

QUOTE (M Huprich @ May 23 2010, 07:21 AM) Pedigree research is not like a novel, but an informative discussion of the horses in the pedigree, and other horses related to them.  The pedigree research that was reprinted goes from sire line to dam line, and back several generations within each subtopic.   Sorry it's not to your taste or interest.  

I am sorry but I think this forum should not be an english grammar study or writing critique - if it was we'd really be in the ditch.  We would spend all our time correcting each other's posts for grammatical errors, writing styles, spelling, syntax, etc,  and not end up discussing the horses, the real purpose of this site.

No need to be sad or sorry.  I did not say that the information is not "to my taste or interest".  What I said was that it could use some literary organization.  For instance, how about having the general summary statements of the horse himself be contained in the first paragraph, and not strewn throughout?  How about starting a new paragraph for each ancestor to be discussed?  How about starting each new paragraph with the horse name bolded and/or underlined and then indenting the information about that horse underneath it's name?  I think it's known as cohesive writing.  A professional writer should have some of that.      

As we see time and again on this forum and others, writing and grammar are extremely important.  Why?  Well. it's because misunderstandings seem to be the rule and not the exception, which does put us in the ditch, many a time.

Ray
you make a good point!

Organization

There is nothing wrong with organization. I find grouping similar thoughts and phase’s grouped under one topic keeps things clearer and more understandable.    Sometimes I find myself having to reread what the writer is trying to say because of different topics grouped together and they transition into another topic or statement before it is clear what they are addressing. Sometimes a different thought or topic is within another topic which can be confusing for reader. It makes it much easier for me if topics are grouped or organized for the reader to learn the material.

Paragraph Breaks

The purpose of the new paragraph is to tell the reader the writer has moved on to a different thought within the same topic. It is a clear way for the writer to cover a laundry list of important points or subjects in an organized way. Paragraph breaks helps the writer get from point a to z with understanding and better clarity that the writer is now address something new within the topic.

I personally think that adding in paragraph breaks helps me to learn and understand things more clearly. I like to know when the reader has moved on concerning a particular thought on the subject or topic. Sometimes when the paragraphs run together it confuses me. I find myself having to reread the material because I don’t understand how or what the writer is saying is related.  

[DJ Sheldon]

VanAlma, on 01 January 2011 - 04:42 PM, said:

In light of the Egytian Alternative discussion about rare sire lines in the SE gene pool, and because the best Arabian I ever owned was a PB who had this blood as well, it sparked an interest in me to search out horses of the Julep sire line. I found this stallion who kind of wowed me, so figured I'd put him here in case someone is actually looking to get this sire line in their program. Apparently, he has a full brother, although the pic does not do him justice or he isn't as nice. I guess we don't know until we search these lines out...
HR Judaan

Thanks for sharing that link Kate.  He really is a lovely stallion, and I had no idea he even existed.

[Phoenix]

Our friend Dawn has a total outcross Straight Egyptian Stallion. She will un-veil him soon. I know both Kate and DJ will like him. For now everyone will be kept guessing.

[Jill Erisman]

VanAlma, on 01 January 2011 - 04:42 PM, said:

In light of the Egytian Alternative discussion about rare sire lines in the SE gene pool, and because the best Arabian I ever owned was a PB who had this blood as well, it sparked an interest in me to search out horses of the Julep sire line. I found this stallion who kind of wowed me, so figured I'd put him here in case someone is actually looking to get this sire line in their program. Apparently, he has a full brother, although the pic does not do him justice or he isn't as nice. I guess we don't know until we search these lines out...
HR Judaan

I've always liked this stallion.  I was at Hidden River when he was a yearling
and much preferred him to his older, bay full brother but then I'm a sucker
for "Julyan grays."  So what are the O'Donnells are doing with him and why don't I see any foals by him?

HR Judaan represents the very thin sire line in SEs left to Gulastra>Mesaoud>Zobeyni which is almost gone, so colt or filly by him wouldn't much matter to me.  I'll be very sorry if we lose this
diversity.

The Julyan daughters I've seen have, as a group, been absolutely
jaw-dropping mares (from a variety of older American Asil bloodlines.)

Good stuff!

Jill

[VanAlma]

Jill Erisman, on 05 January 2011 - 02:59 PM, said:

I've always liked this stallion.  I was at Hidden River when he was a yearling
and much preferred him to his older, bay full brother but then I'm a sucker
for "Julyan grays."  So what are the O'Donnells are doing with him and why don't I see any foals by him?
HR Judaan represents the very thin sire line in SEs left to Gulastra>Mesaoud>Zobeyni which is almost gone, so colt or filly by him wouldn't much matter to me.  I'll be very sorry if we lose this
diversity.
The Julyan daughters I've seen have, as a group, been absolutely
jaw-dropping mares (from a variety of older American Asil bloodlines.)
Good stuff!
Jill

I have contacted them via email but have not had a response. I plan on calling them soon, but don't like being a bother so will wait and see if they email me back.
I have only seen pics of both stallions, and have to agree the grey far outdoes the bay. I think, if I read the website corretly, the bay was gelded as were his male offspring. Glad to see some breeders aren't keeping the lesser, yet rare, lines intact just because they are rare. It tells me they are horse people first, presevationists second. I like that order. More people should take notice.
Anyway, the website has not been updated in some time (unless I am wrong) so am crossing my fingers he is still alive a viable. I agree, a horse like this is NEEDED for his genes and quality. Would be terrible to lose. Since there are so many people here looking to preserve and better the SE, I hope some will spring for him.