When do you halter train foals
#1
Posted 07 April 2010 - 06:37 PM
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#2
Posted 08 April 2010 - 01:49 PM
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#3
Posted 08 April 2010 - 04:32 PM
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#4
Posted 08 April 2010 - 04:53 PM
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#5
Posted 08 April 2010 - 11:40 PM
In this episode, he begins teaching the foal to give to the pressure of a thin rope around it's neck, then combines this with a thin butt rope. He say's "Ask with the neck rope, tell with the butt rope". With each application of pressure, he releases for the slightest try. He then moves up to using a bigger and longer rope, using the other end for the butt rope, until he can eventually get the foal to give to pressure from several feet away, without the butt rope. Each time, he applies pressure by pulling gently from off to one side or the other, never from the front.
Once the foal seems comfortable with this and understands the idea without freaking out, he puts the halter on and starts out with the butt rope again, going through the same steps as before. The butt rope helps the foal remember what it's been learning. He mentions that you shouldn't go for more than about 10 to 15 mins in each session with foals this young.
Anyway, I thought it was a great way to introduce the halter. The episode was on RFDTV on 4/8/2010 at 11am. It was called "Practical Exercises for Trail Riding", although I don't know why?? I see the same title scheduled for Sunday, the 11th at 2pm. I don't know if it's the same episode or not.
Den
#6
Posted 09 April 2010 - 12:14 AM
I am always happy to hear the IgG reports, then I go back in and tickle some..to let them know they were good and that the restraint was short-lived.
The next day, usually the third, I start the halter on and off..no ropes at all, until a week or so. When they go out following momma, especially here to the round pen, which is a little hike, we usually have someone along side here and there just in case of a mix-up or a runaway..I don't move as fast as I used to, so I generally keep the mare close to me for control, and she can see the foal.
When let loose, they tear about, but the foal sees me always in the pen,and when it is time to come in, it is much like liberty, halter mom, open the gate and back to the barn we go, with a little tickle session once confined again., this time I check feet and hooves.
This works for me for about a month as they get stronger, and neck muscles grow stronger, then comes the halter staying on for a half hour or so, with what I refer to as the dingle dangle..a tiny section of rope clips to the ring on the halter..lets them feel something around their heads. ALWAYS supervise this action and never leave the foal and momma alone.
Next comes the pressure of the lead rope..in both directions..and yes, a few moments only, maybe twice a day....and this I do IN the stall , never outside without confinement.
Each step continues, until you have a beautiful yearling in front of you, in their stance, and ready for the judges...LOL
Now, all this said...I can tell you that Sheila Varian NEVER halters her foals until they are weaned and ready for her type of training..that totally floored me when I met her..but I would say, that it works for her!
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#7
Posted 12 April 2010 - 03:02 PM
I only use A halter on babies when I am on site, if off site NEVER, way too much trouble if they get hung up on anything and believe me any foal will find somthing to hurt themselves on it they can, they are super curious about everything.
My mom has waited a bit for some of hers and I yell at her for it. I have to teach them when they are larger, not very fun and I am getting older. My mom and I have a love / hate relationship.
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#8
Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:46 PM
I also pick up the babies and hold them, for as many days as I can (they get too heavy quick!) but something about being picked up and helpless to run away seems to imprint in them that they don't need to fear being held or restrained.
Guardian still to: Zandai Jasoor (Zandai Ibn Omar x Glorieta Saqlima) & Impress Rissala (Imtaarif x Zandai Om Roda)
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#9
Posted 13 April 2010 - 05:51 PM
BINT SAFIERA 2000 Bay mare on lease to Hadaya Arabians IFT VA REGAL It's a filly!!! Hadaya Regal Safire
SHAMS EL BINA 2002 Bay mare IFT HADAYA STERLINGSILVER
NAKHDA AL SHAIB 2004 Grey Gelding<---- AL
SIHR JAWHER 2006 Bay Stallion
NADEERAH ALIAH 2006 Bay mare
ZAHRAN HAMRAH 2006 Grey mare
IMANA 2006 bay
MALIK AL AASIF 2007 Grey Colt
SKYLER the 1/2 Arabian pinto wonder horse


#10
Posted 17 April 2010 - 06:17 PM
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#11
Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:31 PM
The next one is sliding out into a halter. I don't need to play rodeo with a 2 month old ever again.
#13
Posted 18 June 2010 - 04:02 PM
Den, on Apr 8 2010, 06:40 PM, said:
In this episode, he begins teaching the foal to give to the pressure of a thin rope around it's neck, then combines this with a thin butt rope. He say's "Ask with the neck rope, tell with the butt rope". With each application of pressure, he releases for the slightest try. He then moves up to using a bigger and longer rope, using the other end for the butt rope, until he can eventually get the foal to give to pressure from several feet away, without the butt rope. Each time, he applies pressure by pulling gently from off to one side or the other, never from the front.
Once the foal seems comfortable with this and understands the idea without freaking out, he puts the halter on and starts out with the butt rope again, going through the same steps as before. The butt rope helps the foal remember what it's been learning. He mentions that you shouldn't go for more than about 10 to 15 mins in each session with foals this young.
Anyway, I thought it was a great way to introduce the halter. The episode was on RFDTV on 4/8/2010 at 11am. It was called "Practical Exercises for Trail Riding", although I don't know why?? I see the same title scheduled for Sunday, the 11th at 2pm. I don't know if it's the same episode or not.
Den
Thanks for posting this. I don't think my DVR recorded that episode.
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#15
Posted 23 June 2010 - 12:40 AM
Everything is done with patience without pain.
Babbage is doing well at all these things and has stood still for all four feet without a helper, (Handler) only and never threatened to bite. In general it is fun to get him to understand we are friends not enemies but friends with an agenda, benign for sure but not subservient.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:07 PM
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